Super Alleige Chrome A5

May I ask you which book you refer to?

It is in France, doesn’t seem to be signed and I am trying to find the engraver name. The asking price is 9000,00$ plus air cargo freight (labeled as dangerous good, I am sure you’re familiar with all that Rudolph) plus French bureaucracy. If you have a vague concept of the word bureaucracy, you will quickly and painfully learn what it means.

The Europeans love a bloated bureaucracy, Biz. Why else would they have two, one in each capitol and another in Brussels? Although I will give the Belgians credit, they conquered all of Europe without firing a shot.

Oh, $9000 is just nuts. Plus the red tape. To quote a famous movie producer, “You can include me the f**k out!” Are firearms dangerous goods? I’ll look it up and get back to you, but I don’t think so.

Those were the auction photos, Ranger. So if you have the missing screw, you must be the seller. I’ve since replaced it, but feel free to send me the original.

This book, Biz. I can’t believe you don’t have a copy.

Me either. It’s a great resource. Plus some of the guns in it make my loins stir

Biz, under our regs, Dangerous Goods (HAZMAT) are Combustible, Corrosive, Infectious, Oxidizing, or Poisonous. Firearms are none of the above. Whoever you talked to either doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or wants to charge you a separate fee.

God bless America!

Thank you Rudolph, but I believe to rules a different in Canada. It may be not a dangerous good, but it is treated as a dangerous good. I will double check with Air Canada.

Of course I have that book, it is on my night table. I just didn’t know which book browning90va was referring to and I don’t recall to have seen that number one on top of the serial number refer to grade one. It would be very kind of him to tell me on which page he read that

Well, I looked up the SAC series in S/V. One short paragraph, and the information can be interpreted two ways as it pertains to engraving styles. And I interpreted it a different way in two different posts on Shotgunworld. One way is that the SAC series was only available with Type IV and V engraving. The other, and I think the correct way, is that all Types were available, but only Types IV and V had the hard chrome finish.

Here is the other post:

https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=443364&hilit= Allege

The OP’s gun isn’t like the one discussed here either, as it doesn’t have the SA prefix.

Rudolph this is confusing for me,
SAC means Super Allégé Chrome or super light Chrome. I believe chrome is a kind of metal coating?
If all type are available and SAC (Super Allégé Chrome) it mean all type are chrome plated. Are type 1,2 and 3 chrome or silvery color?

Confusing to me too, but I don’t work in marketing. But as I understand it, in 1958 FN produced two new types, the Super Light (Super Allege) and the Super Allege Chrome.

The Super Lights had an alloy — which I suppose is an aluminum alloy — trigger guard. Later they featured an aluminum receiver as well. These guns had an SA prefix to the serial number.

The Super Allege Chrome, as far as I can tell didn’t have any special alloy parts. They did have high grade engraving, but only those engraved with Type IV or V had the Chrome finish. And, they had an SAC prefix.

Calling a gun Super Light Chrome without making it super light or giving it a chrome finish makes absolutely no sense whatever. Either S/V got the details wrong, or the marketing department at FN was run by the Marx Brothers.

If anyone can interpret the data more clearly, I’d like to hear it.

I forgot to answer your question, Biz. Yes, chrome plating gives metal a bright silver finish that is also very hard and corrosion resistant.

Why don’t we ask SGTmaddox to weigh is SAC. We can compare with an "ordinary" auto-5

Maybe my friend Gibier will ask.

Just a thought. May be SAC doesn’t mean Super Allégé Chrome. It might be related to light color as opposed to light weight. When the FN translate SAC by Super light Chrome can the light refer to light-colored Chrome. At the page 176, they refer to the weight by using the term Super Lightweight.
Note: I edited the text from yesterday.

As far as I know, S/V did the translating, and they could well be in error. Because this doesn’t make any sense. Anthony Vanderlinden is a member here, maybe he’ll clear this up for us.

Hello Rudolph, I talked to Gibier and he told me that he wrote to SGTmaddox

I'm a little late here, but is this gun for sale and who do I talk to if it is?


Thanks for any assistance.