Lately, I received from mon ami Anatidae a Browning auto-5 Final Tribute publicity pamphlet. The publicity shows side by side à Final Tribute and serial number 1. Looking at SN 1, I realized that something seems strange compare to the following month’s production. Does anyone else notice that difference. I wonder if number 1 was a prototype or the first one put in production.
There is no checkering, but don't think the first ones had anyway. That picture is a little blurry, but is there a safety?
Apparently, it was shipped without the safety. Nothing to do with the checkering. It is more obvious than that.
I am going to say that the forearm groove going all the way to the front is different than the following month’s production. Just a WAG
You hit the nail on the head. Do you think it was a prototype or the first one of the production. Interestingly, with the cheeks and that type of grooves , it looks more like a first year Remington Autoloading Shotgun
I think it’s a replacement forearm. That gun got used, and I imagine if you’re John or Val Browning, it’d be easier to replace a part than to repair it.
It is a valid hypothesis. I wonder what JMB presented to Remington when they got the exclusivity for the US market. Just for the discussion, here is an early Remington. Notice the cheeks and the forearm. Very similar to S.N. 1.
The number one was discussed before and I believe the museum suggested that forend was replaced. Also was suggested that the earliest Remingtons were more true to original gun than Belgium gun. I believe Belgiums were improving design every chance they had. I think I remember Rudolph participating in that discussion I read long ago.
I do vaguely recall that discussion. If it was on this site, it’s probably gone. There was a great purge a few years back.
Just was pointing out that 95% or more of everything I know about these guns came from most of you over the last 15-20yrs. I very much appreciate that! Thanks
I own an American published copy of "John M Browning American Gunmaker". The book is written by John Browning and Curt Gentry and was published by Browning themselves. My copy is a 1993 12th edition. The cover of the book I have features a photo of a very early A5. I have included a photograph of the cover below. The cover photograph has no image credit in the book. This book was first published in 1982. Given that the book was published by Browning I'd hazard a guess that this is also a photograph that Browning took. It would not surprise me if the gun in this photogaph is also serial number 1. Similar to the gun in the photo that @Biz shared the stock also features the "cheeks" and no safety catch. Note how damaged the gun in this photo is. There's cracks extending from the rear of the bolt handle slot and the rear of the humpback has cracked all the way around.
I was just doing some further research into this and found a vintage Browning advert from 1978 that features the exact image on the cover of the book. This advert credits the bottom gun as serial number 1.
Sure would like to know what screw drivers were used on those screws? Wonder if those brass shells were fired in one of them and what kind of crimp was used if any.
I'm more interested to know what the extra screw is infront of the bolt release button. I'm guessing that as it's serial number 1 it'll have been dissassembled and assembled multiple times in the workshop, hence all the marring. The brass shells will have had a card waxed or glued into the end of the casing. A lacquer style of glue was often used. Full brass cases predate the A5 and A5s will have seen paper cases and then plastic cases in their lives. I see no reason why full brass cases wouldn't work in an A5, however moden brass cases are usually rated for black powder or pyrodex only.