Another very easy quiz

Discussion in 'Browning Auto A-5' started by Biz, Jan 19, 2023.

  1. Biz

    Biz 20g

    OK guys, what is wrong with these two very early straight grips.

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  2. Ranger6

    Ranger6 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Global Moderator Forum Moderator

    the bolt release button is wrong.
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  3. Fowlgunner

    Fowlgunner .22LR

    You've got American "Apple Pie" and Belgian "Chocolate" in the same photo!
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  4. Auzzie

    Auzzie 20g

    Ejection port?
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  5. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    I noticed that the top gun in the top picture had the wrongly shaped operating handle, a rounded slot on the receiver for it to reciprocate in, and a notched ejection port. The second picture shows the wrong forearm on that gun.

    I was about to check Martin’s guide when I saw Fowlgunner’s astute post. I like to think that I’d have gotten there eventually!

    Great quiz, Biz! Keep ‘em coming!
  6. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Here’s my American gun from 1908:

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  7. Jta5er

    Jta5er .270 WIN

    Amazing how close they are to bad the later remington brownings didn’t stay true to the Fn browning gun design.
  8. Bill Idaho

    Bill Idaho .270 WIN

    Some where in my reference material I have the time frame/year when FN switched from the squared off milled corners on the rear of the ejection port as opposed to the rounded corners.
    In 1906 the bottom of the cartridge stop was rounded, but the smaller screw on the front trigger assembly screw wouldn't be there. (Not in 1906.) But since it does have the second smaller screw, the meat under that screw would a "bump" in the straight milling cut along the bottom edge. Interesting. I'm going to have to pull out some of my reference stuff now.....

    And, as a retired machinist, I would have loved to have been able to see he complete machining process of an Auto 5 receiver!!!
  9. Biz

    Biz 20g

    The R.A.S. (Remington Autoloading Shotgun) as they call it in the early 1900s were offered in different grades that showed the Nimschke style engraving which in my taste is extraordinary. Our friend Fowlgunner is the Remington specialist.
    You can see on these Model 11 and 10 how generous they were with the engraving and note the depth of the engraving compared to the auto 5.
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  10. Fowlgunner

    Fowlgunner .22LR

    Thanks for the kind words Biz, but just when you think you know something about these older guns there is a twist that has you scratching you head.

    The Remington Autoloading Shotgun (Gun) in the initial photo is a Grade No.3 (Trap/Later C grade when it became the Model 11 with the merger of Rem and UMC in 1910/11) and it is absolutley period correct if my memory serves me.

    The bottom gun only became the Model 10 after the merger, prior to that it was the Model of 1908 Pump Gun or the Remington Repeating Shotgun and is a Grade No.4 (Tournamnet or after merger a D grade).

    As for the early Regular Gun Auto 5, I don't see anything particularly out of place on it either!

    Thanks for making us look!

    Will
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