Barrel Codes/ Stamps/ Chokes

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  1. Ranger6

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    * designates full choke (F).
    *- designates improved modified choke (IM).
    ** designates modified choke (M).
    **- designates improved cylinder choke (IC).
    **$ designates skeet (SK).
    *** designates cylinder bore (CYL).

    12 ga choke restrictions:

    Choke restrictions:
    Cylinder - .000"
    Skeet - .005"
    Imp Cyl - .010"
    Light Mod - .015"
    Mod - .020"
    Imp. Mod. - .025"
    Full - .035.

    Note: These sizes are for 12 gauge only.
  2. Ranger6

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    Depending on who makes the choke, or what manufacture there is a slight difference in what each one calls Skeet, Modified etc. This list is the closest that I could find to the auto 5 barrels that I measured. NOTE: You may get a slightly different measurement.
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    Belgian Proofmarks
    Belgian proofs are among the oldest and have a very long history. But despite the history the belgian proof stamps are rather straight forward, normally one can’t get more information from the proof more than it has been done if one can’t find the inspectors mark.

    The inspectors mark is still an secret so the list here should be regarded as uncertain, but it can in some cases give a more accurate dating that the stamps.

    The date stamps is not used on all guns, otherwise that is the most accurate.



    Proof Mark

    Valid

    Proof House

    Type of Proof

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    1924->

    Liege

    Mark for voluntary treble temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels

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    1924->

    Liege

    Mark for voluntary double temporary or provisional proof on unfinished barrels

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    1893->

    Liege

    On barrels of muzzleloading guns that has passed a re-enforced black powder proof.

    On barrels of breechloading shotguns after final black powder proof.

    The same stamp but smaller is found on Flobert guns, selfloading pistols with a excess proof pressure of 50%, on barrels of top break guns for Flobert or revolvers cartridges an excess pressure of 30% and or revolvers which are proofed with 30-50% excess loads.

    Introduced to designate arms proved in conformity of German Proof Law of 1891. Now represents definitive black powder proof except for muzzle loaders

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    1891-1959

    Liege

    This mark is found on barrels and locks after voluntary semi-smokeless proof

    Standard smokeless powder proof on military rifles below 8mm caliber.
    1898-present

    Standard smokeless proof for all arms.
    1903-present

    R

    1846-1889

    Liege

    Mark applied to barrels which failed proof and have returned to makers for reworking

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    1894->

    Liege

    Designates rifled barrel. Introduced for handguns in 1894, rifles over 8mm in 1897. Since 1924 used on all rifled arms.

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    1852 ->

    Liege

    Provisional black powder proof for breech loading guns, since 1924 reserved for smooth bore barrels. Between 1847-1952 the stamp with the letter “F-J C” was used in the same purpose.

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    1959->

    Liege

    Superior smokeless proof

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    1853-1877

    Liege

    Example of inspectors mark, any letter can be used with a crown.

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    1877->

    Liege

    Inspectors mark, normally these are kept secret

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    1672 - 1810 and since 1853 ->

    Liege

    The perron mark, used:

    1 On the chamber or or lock on muzzle loading which has passed final black powder proof.

    2 On barrel locking system or chamber if the lumps are part of the barrel after final black powder proof

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    1852-1853

    Liege

    Preliminary proof for unfinished barrels, and indicated barrels had not been weakened after proof by breeching, Used on muzzle loaders

    18.0

    1810 ->

    Liege

    Bore diameter in millimeters. Until 1894, stamped in .02mm graduations, then in 0.1mm steps

    CHOKE

    1898-1910 (1924)

    Liege

    Choke designation

    CHOKE 17. 16.3

    1897-1910(1924)

    Liege

    Degree of choke, in this case 0.7mm constriction

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    1910-1924

    Liege

    Degree of choke, in this case 0.7mm constriction

    CHOKE 17.0

    1924->

    Liege

    Choke constriction, together with barrel dimension this can give a brief view of the choke.

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    1898 - 1924

    Liege

    Mark for optional superior provisional proof. The mark was seldom requested

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    1892-1924

    Liege

    Chamber dimensions in millimeters shotguns undergoing smokeless proof. Length of chamber over diameter of chamber

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    1968 ->

    Liege

    Smokeless powder proof for rifles

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    1924->

    Liege

    This mark is found on guns that is not made in Belgium by countries that use proofs that is not recognized by the Belgian Proof House. The mark is applied after the gun has passed the Belgian proof.

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    1810 - 1853

    Liege

    Double proof as prescribed by the French law of 1810.

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    1810 ->

    Liege

    Black powder proof for rifles and shotguns. Can be without star and ring.

    In it’s small version it’s a acceptance mark on barrels that was exported in a unfinished state 1846-1893

    In it’s small version it’s a black powder mark on small pistols and revolvers barrels 1866-1893

    In it’s small version it’s a black powder mark on small revolvers cylinders 1866-1893
  5. Ranger6

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    CH B RAYE

    1893-1924

    1930 ->

    Liege

    Guns with rifled chokes

    CH RAYE

    1924-1930

    Liege

    As above

    NON RAYE

    1894-1924

    Liege

    Not rifled, on smooth bore barrels

    NON RAYE 94

    1894-1894

    (1894-1924)

    Liege

    Variant of the one above, used for some month in 1894 and sometimes later on...

    EXPRESS NON RAYE

    1894-1898

    Liege

    Mark for smooth bore express rifles

    NON POUR BALLE

    1878-1897

    Liege

    Not for ball, indicates that the barrel has choke

    1K355.5

    1892->

    Liege

    Weight of proofed barrels, after 1924 fractions of grams no longer used.

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    1924->

    Liege

    On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size (or nominal bore) plus the shell or cartridge case length

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    1924->

    Liege

    Preliminary proof for unfinished barrels

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    1898 to 1924

    Liege

    On barrels and actions of smoothbore guns with the gauge size.

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    1891->

    Liege

    Smokeless powder proof of military rifles until 1903, thereafter indicates nitro proof for all types of arms.

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    1891->

    Liege

    On barrel action of breech loading shotgun after the gun has passed proof with semi-smokeless powder . SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze.

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    1891->

    Liege

    On barrel action of breech loading shotgun after the gun has passed proof with semi-smokeless powder . SCH or EC is abbreviations of the powder: SCH meaning Schultze.

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    1897-1903

    Liege

    Maximum service load for shotguns having undergone smokeless proof. Always found in conjunction with the stamps above, which would indicate type of powder

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    Liege

    Mark identifying the Belgian Proof House

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    1924->

    Liege

    Applied to all guns made but not proofed in Belgium - sent to an other country proof facilities.

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    1924->

    Liege

    Applied to all gun not made in Belgium but proofed in Belgium.
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