16 gauge FN Type 1

Discussion in 'Browning Auto A-5' started by win7stw, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

  2. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    Barrel says Remington Arms Ilion NY Browning patent. I am pretty sure it’s a 1906 Remington from the serial number. I agree with your assessment of value
  3. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    The seller thinks it’s a Browning. Maybe if you convince him otherwise he’ll drop the price.
  4. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    I tried, showed him pictures of old Remington catalogs and serial number chart. He thinks because it’s over 100 years old it’s worth gold
  5. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Well, they’re not rare. You’ll find another. I bought mine because it’s close to the first year Browning. Shortly afterwards a 1903 became available. Figures.
  6. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    I notice it when I look at it. I don’t notice at all when I shoot it.

    By the way, S/V doesn’t mention it, but there was a transition trigger that was more curved than the pre war (WWI) but less than those in use by the late 20’s. 1903 on top, 1924 middle, bottom is 1931.
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  7. Biz

    Biz 20g

    The early R.A.S. ( Remington Autoloading Shotgun) are not rare, but the R.A.S. with the Remington and Browning marking on the side of the receiver are rare.
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  8. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    Good to know, I am heading to a gun show tomorrow. Hopefully I can score something good
  9. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    I didn’t know that. Thanks, Biz. The receiver on my 1908 R.A.S. is unmarked.

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    What do you think the 1906 gun is worth?
  10. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Beautiful gun, Biz. You should get a letter from Browning. Probably in 1939 a Canadian could just drive across the border and buy it in an American gun store. I’m curious to know where it first sold.

    And, did you know you can get a magazine extension for it?

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  11. Biz

    Biz 20g

    Actually Rudolph, it will be a great idea to inquiry about the origin of the gun. How can I do that?
    Regarding the magazine extension, I didn’t know they were such thing. I even don’t know if the law allows us to purchase that. In any case, a magazine extension will be very practical if some American zombies decide to cross the border. Joke aside, how many more shells can you add with that extension?
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  12. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Call the Browning historian at 800-333-3288 and give him the serial number. He should get back to you in a few days with the date, location, and sales price. If you want a letter, that will cost you either $25 or $50, I forget.

    The magazine extension adds 3 rounds for a total of 8. The manufacturer makes them up to 8 rounds but doesn’t recommend more than 4 for an Auto-5 because you can’t clamp it to the barrel. I bought a 3 because more than that seemed too much weight hanging unsupported. I use that gun for bowling pin competitions. And of course, Zombies.

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  13. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    Well I took the old girl out today grouse hunting. Didn’t find any birds but tried my hand loads and they cycled great through it.

    Nothing that I couldn’t live without at the gun show. One nice X prefix Sweet Sixteen
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  14. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Glad the loads worked great! How did you deal with the crimps unfolding?
  15. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    I ran them through the final crimp again and put a little hot glue on them. Kind of tedious, wish I had some of the paper hulls like you have.

    I ordered a case of Gamebore ammo and that worked well too
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  16. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Those paper hulls worked great. They even came primed and were already 65mm. I put a piece of tape on the first two stations of the MEC so I didn’t accidentally punch out the primer.

    The downside is they probably shouldn’t be fired more than once. I’ve had a few case head separations which fortunately jammed the gun.

    I’ll look into Gamebore. The name seems familiar but I didn’t know they had short 16 gauge ammo.
  17. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

  18. Rudolph31

    Rudolph31 .30-06

    Yeah, I found them at Midway for the same price. Sure makes your reloading activity worthwhile. I’m surprised that they’re fold crimped but still hold one ounce.
  19. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    Yeah they aren't cheap but I was kind of skeptical about my reloads at first.
  20. win7stw

    win7stw .30-06

    I will dissect one tonight and post what i find in it.
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